i07 in Paris: In the world, a class is fighting back!
03 May 2007 23:22 GMTAnarcho-syndicalists and revolutionary unionists from all over the world met in Paris from April 28th to May 1st 2007 in Paris for a conference. Following the conferences of San Francisco (i99) and Essen (i02), the CNT-F i07 took place with the goal of starting to build links between different organisations and unite workers of different countries, to struggle and take action through organising international solidarity.
The weekend included discussions and debates in syndicalist meetings (eg. 'Revolutionary syndicalism, anarchosyndicalism and institutions', 'Precarity at work'), branch meetings (building industry, education etc.) and thematic discussions (eg. 'Struggle against imperialism and neo-colonialism', 'Migration'). The anarchist/anarcho-syndicalist/syndicalist block at the 1st May demonstration had over 4000 participants from every corner of this planet.1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5
International Workers Day was celebrated all over the planet with anti-capitalist demonstrations. In Jakarta, 100 anarchists marched in a block; a campaign against youth rates was relaunched in Auckland; police attacked families and immigrants with tear gas and rubber bullets in Los Angeles; riots erupted in Zurich where bank windows were smashed and 100,000 people took part in a demonstration in Oaxaca.
International Solidarity
Activists came to Paris from all over the world! Unfortunately some people from Africa and Palestine couldn't attend because they were refused a visa. The following countries and organisations were represented:
AFRIQUE/AFRICA
Algérie/Algeria (SNAPAP), Maroc/Moroco (UMT, CDT, ANDCN, paysans pauvres, FDR-UDT), Tunisie/Tunisia (CGTT), Guinée/Guinea (CNTG, CEK, SLEG), Cameroun (CSP, CGT Liberté), Côte d'Ivoire/Ivory Coast (CGT-CI), Djibouti (UDT), Congo RDC (LO), Mali (Cocidirail, Sytrail), Bénin (FNEB, UNSTB, AIPR), Burkina Faso (UGEB, CGT-B, AEBF), Madagascar (FISEMARE)
ASIE/ASIA
Bangladesh (NGWF, Sans-Terre), Palestine/Palestinia (Refugee camp Dheisheh, PFU, DWRC), Turquie (ACI), Sibérie/Siberia (SKT)
AMÉRIQUES/AMERICA
Colombie/Colombia (SINALTRAINAL, Estudios libertarios, Anarchist Black Cross), Mexique/Mexico (APPO (Oaxaca), Chiapas, Atenco), Argentine, Etats Unis d'Amériques/USA (IWW), Brasil/Brésil (Anarchist Federation of Rio)
EUROPE
Portugal (AC interpro), Pologne/Poland (IT, CK-LA), Italie (USI, Unicobas), Grèce/Greek (ESE), Royaume-Uni/UK (SolFed), Irlande/Eire (Organize), Allemagne/Deutshland (FAU), Espagne/Spain (CGT, CNT, Solidaridad Obrera), Suède/Sweden (SAC, SUF)
OCÉANIE/OCEANIA
Aotearoa (Nouvelle-Zélande/New Zealand)
Meetings
The meetings took place on Saturday/Sunday 28/29 April. Many fruitful discussions were had and plans made for future actions and campaigns. The meetings included regional meetings, branch meetings as well as thematic discussions and debates.
Syndicalist meetings
High cost of life, wages, housing
Undoubtedly workers around the world know a true lowering of their purchasing power and must face more and more difficulties around housing, transportation and food. Facing this, some social movements are developing with vindications going from simple demands for respect of fundamental rights to the requirement of a true redistribution of wealth: as capitalism produce more and more wealth, is redistribution more and more unequal?
Outsourcing, redundancies, unemployment
Capitalist globalisation brings more and more changes whether under the form of outsourcing, shooting down unprofitable factories, mergers and so on. What international reaction can we have in front of this critical situation for the workers of the world?
Co-operatives
The co-operative system of production can be an alternative to the dominant economical system as a way of self-organisation of the workers as well as a weapon of the syndicalist struggle, notably for the repossession of closing factories...
Representativity, law, syndicalist freedom and antisyndicalist repression
First of all we will look over at different situations in each country present (syndicalist existence rights in companies or at a national level, right to strike, attacks against syndicalist freedom). This will bring us to look at the perspectives of struggles and of common means of actions to reinforce syndicalist rights.
Revolutionary syndicalism, anarchosyndicalism and institutions
How can we combine our day-to-day struggles and our revolutionary vision of syndicalism? How far can syndicalism go without loosing its independence toward the State and the bosses? What is the relationship between syndicalism and politics?
European union
Statement of different social situations and reforms at different level. Possibility of a concrete co-ordination of struggles at this level facing a «europeanisation» of laws and rights of the workers.
Public services and privatisation
World-wide public sector is being privatised. What kind of resistance for what kind of public service?
Precarity at work
Neoliberalism means precarity, the circle precarity of the workers which is being a work force with no rights. It's about time to fight back?
Branche meetings
Everybody met in branch meetings on Saturday afternoon. The networking will connect workers for future struggles and strengthen the international solidarity. The following meetings took place: Building industry (Fédération SUB-CNT), Culture and media (inculding archeology) (Fédération CCS), Education (Fédération Education), Agriculture and Environment (Fédération des travailleurs de la terre et de l'environnement), Health and social industry (Fédération Santé-social), Trade and food industry (SCIAL RP), Transportation (inculding railroad) (CNT Nancy), Cleaning industry (Nettoyage RP et 69),- Steel industry and car industry (CNT 93), Telecom industry (postal services, telecom, etc) (Fédération PTT), Computer workers (Syndicat de l'industrie informatique RP) and Homecare workers(Fédération Santé-social/UL Poitiers).
Thematics meetings
Migrations
This debate will be mostly on how can laws permite the development of the exploitation of migrants workers. From their, how do we organise a syndicalist fight back ?
Ecology
Energy, industrial pollution, agriculture (GM props, etc), growth and degrowth. How to define a social ecology ? How shall syndicalism approaches ecology ?
Womyn
What struggle for womyn today?
Antifascism
How can we organise the resistance against the global rise of fascism today?
Chiapas
We will talk about the project of an international meeting in Chiapas (Mexico) brought up by the EZLN for 2008. They would the participation of countries with whom they have little or no contacts with.
Prison
Around the world the conditions of detention are getting worse (over crowded cells, tortures, etc). Not to mention the economical exploitation of prisoners mostly used as extremely cheap work force. How to denounce prison as a true tool of repression of the ruling classes? What alternative for tomorrow?
Worldwide campaign against Coca-Cola
This multinational company is the symbol of global capitalism: from murdering syndicalists in Colombia to spoliation of resources. An international campaign started to promote the boycott of the products of this company.
Struggle against imperialism and neo-colonialism
How syndicalism can and should bring up the struggle for self-determination of the peoples?
Youth
How is the best way to bring class consciousness to the youth? Why and how?
Confederal meetings
Meetings with the delegates of the various syndicalist organisations took place on Monday morning.
Mediterranean Zone Meeting
Specific meeting about the creating of a syndicalist solidarity group in the Mediterranean area. Proposition of methodology (which, obviously, can be modified). A general assembly on the global analysis of the situation on both side of the Mediterranean sea (the potential participants should send in advance their written presentations in order to have more time to discuss). In a second time, group meetings on : struggle against unemployment and precarity, liberties and syndicalist rights, privatisation, relocating companies and multinationals, women, the youth and syndicalism, immigration and labour market, syndicalist formation, communication networks, the defense of the common good (water, earth, etc...), struggle of the poor peasants, the Amazigh people. Then, we will return in general assemblee with minutes of each group meetings and collective conclusions (what sort of campaigns, common declarations...)
G8 Meeting in Germany, what are we doing?
The next G8 meeting will take place in Germany, in Rostock, in the beginning of June 2007. We will discuss the perspectives and how to mobilise for the event.
International Meeting
An international meeting on 30th April brought hundreds of people together on 'Place de la réunion'. Speakers from Siberia, Guniea, Atenco and Palestine reported on their current struggles. 'Le Choeur du Peuple' (the peoples choir) performed songs from the Paris Commune and a song about Nestor Makhno (he is buried just around the corner in the Père-Lachaise Cemetery).
The CNT-F organised a fantastic cultural program too with several concerts taking place over the weekend at the CNT's local and other places in Paris.
See you at the next conference!
Paris May 1 report in German
sabocat 04.May.2007 17:10
For those that can read German. Here (
http://www.de.indymedia.org/2007/05/175109.shtml) is a report about the Libertarian 1. May in Paris written by the some members of the German anarcho-syndicalist union FAU-IWA that took part in the i07 conference.
query from australia
necta 05.May.2007 05:16
Was a date and place set for the next conference??
@necta
whananga 05.May.2007 10:52
no date set yet, as far as i know. the possibility of organising the conference in an african country was discussed.
There should be regional autonomous conferences next year
freeplay 06.May.2007 06:05
Instead of having a large international conference a number of smaller regional conferences with multiple countries would be much more effective.
Why one large conference?
freeplay 06.May.2007 06:07
Instead of having on large international conference a number of regional conferences with in multiple contries would have a more effective impact.
Hiralious delusional IWW, Anarchists
Racists 06.May.2007 06:27
I remember the international (hahahaha) IWW conference I attended, about 20 people. Mostly people from uppper class white backgrounds.sitting around singin old UMWA songs from Appalaichia. It was almost as bad as if they had performed in black face.
Now a bunch of lame anarchist wannabes try to attach themselves to the immigration rights rallies.
I would right some long treatise about racism within the movement but you don't deserve my effort.
The Mighty Anarchists?
Yawn 07.May.2007 07:08
Oh the fearless Anarchists! What’s the best you got. White boys hurl bottles at cops during rally organized by people color. They when counter attacked run and blend into peaceful crowd of powerless immigrants. Man, you guys are scary. WOW!
I thought the reason we hadn’t seen much of the shivering block was because they had matured and realized they needed to build a base of their own and stop hi jacking oppressed people’s issues. Alas they have not. They have been waiting for someone else to build a rally big enough for them to hide behind. Like the little kid who throws something at a bully and then hides behind his overweight friend.
You are not RAF, You are not ACTION Direkte, never will be never were. You never got down and you never will. You are a bunch of upper class white kids playing revolutionary at someone else’s party.
Other fun examples?
ARA White boys thrown (literally) out of the way by the Panthers in Indy when they got between the Klan and the Panthers hahahahahahahha
Straight White Boys demand to be recognized as transgender females to gain entrance Southern Girls Conference. Probably just wanted to make sure their girlfriends didn’t fall in love with lesbians. Hahahahahahahahahaha
Poor people in Miami shout at and throw things at Black Block as they marched to the FTAA for causing police crackdown in the hood. Hahahahahahahahaha
I go to France and what do I see in a country with 13% unemployment rate? A bunch of American East Coast Anarchists from upper class backgrounds begging for money outside a god damn grocery store. I mean Honkey Please. You a bunch a silken headed hoes seriously. Give us a break. Follow Cobain. Your fearless leader.
IWW has international conference and 30 people show up and white city boys sing UMWA songs and pretend to be country. Hahahahahahahahahahhaha They were in hillbilly black face?
White kids prepare like 300 pounds of humus and other shit and sit across the street from a housing project for two days and then come home crying cause they couldn’t even get the homeless to eat that shit. Hahahaha
Can’t you figure it out? You wanna take action? Do it in your hood? No one to hide behind and take credit for it. Meaning do the time if need be.
We don’t need your help. Your no bath takin, garlic smellin like, crab havin. Humus servin, str8 edge toleratin’, Manson family looking like, broken down car drivin’ (by choice), money bummin’, anti-depressant poppin, flop in someone elses house and never help clean it, urine throwin’, assholes.
Seriously. When it comes to oppressed people’s movements your place is making copies, taking dictation, marching in the back, following the lead of the oppressed, stealing your parents money and donating it to the cause, and doing what is asked of you. Nothing more.
This is why when a young white girl asked “what can I do to help”, Malcom X replied, “Nothing”. Even in the 60’s white folks had a way of showin’ up and demanding to be in the front, the instant expert on everything from American Indians to Tofu. He foresaw the day coming when white boy then radicals like David Horowitz would turn on the movement and show their true color. Where is Jerry Rubin? Stock Broker. Ward Churchill alleged white boy Weatherman becomes overnight Indian and rises to 150,000 dollar a year job while true Indian scholars languish in obscurity. If all you can do is not bathe and throw urine you would fit in more at Chino providing sexual relief for the convicts and throwing urine at the guards. That way you can’t go rin hide in crowd. Chicken shit.
a whole 4000? Amazing
chops 07.May.2007 20:23
So in all the world there are a whole 4000 Anarchists in Europe? I don't even believe that number.
Most of the Anarchists I know want nothing to do with the Wobblies, the Blok, and most of all the primitivists. These groups are not good examples of Anarchist thought or strategy.
Why no black flags
anarchised 08.May.2007 20:40
black flag
Wheres the black flags of anarchists
Can we bottle that smell
If only 09.May.2007 03:03
Think how much money we could make for the movement if we could bottle that unique smell of poop, petule, urine, 5 day old humus, and dried jizz. We could by showers for the world.
Rally organizers tag the Anarchists!
No women no children 09.May.2007 23:36
IF the fake testosterone Anarchists come to your rally and put women and children at risk by throwing things and running to hide in a peaceful crowd, we should whoop their buts. Period. We can organize our own communities. Their presence is not needed.
as mad as the trots
me 10.May.2007 08:15
this is pure propaganda, can we have some reporting rather than some kind of 'party' propaganda. this is indymedia not 'the voice of anarcho-syndicalism'
Slide back into obscurity you false GAP Anarchists!
REAL ANARCHY 10.May.2007 22:55
I remember the day I was in a mall and saw T-shitrts for sale in "the GAP" with Anarchy symbols on them. It was the year after Seattle. I knew then that Anarchists had failed to seize a great opportunity to become a long range force for the future of the left.
There were other signs. Like when organizing for the Seattle events and afterwards, these anarchists because they were organizing amongst angry white boys trying to look cool were only able to show a white face to the media. No people of color wanted anything to do with them.
Other signs? When the block started advertising rally points on that infiltrator site info-shop and others for radical action. I was there when Blockers would assemble and the police were already waiting for them. Chuck-O had actually posted what was to be silent information for all the cops to see.
Other signs? The most significant? The tactics discussed above of attending the rallier of other groups stirring up crap and then cowering behind poor people trying to express themselves. This makes anarchists look like they are working for the authorities.
The maturity nor rsadicalism required to push a well thought out strategy for anti-capitalism is absent in this Anarchist troop surge. It is a white movement that attaches itself like a parasite to any rally or effort that surfaces. It has shown no true flash or courage. No actions that show true altruism. In fact since the Iraq war started they sat quietly waiting for some other groups to get something going so they could feel "safe" lining up to throw bottles. THe immigrant rights stuff started and they saw their chance.
The ideological virus that has killed American Anarchist progression has been the whole primitivist thing. There is no historic, origin in Goldman, Kropotkin, or other anarchist thinkers. Where did this come from. I have been an anarchist for 30 years and I have no afinity or interest in the racist rantings of the primitivist wing that infected the anarchist movement with it's obvious outcomes. For what it is worth, anarchists have to learn the sophisticated art of grassroots organizing if they are to be taken seriously.
A class is fighting back?
The white class? 10.May.2007 23:31
Kinda cute. A class is fighting back? A class of college educated euro and euro americans are fighting back? There are revolutionary movements truly fighting back all over the world and with the exception of Northern Ireland and Spain, none of them are white nor anarchist. Who is chaleenging Israel? Anarchists? Who is fighting in Latin America? Not anarchists. Hell, American anarchists don't even vote. how in the hell would they organize to fight? I have stepped out in the street with some of these fools. They can't hold their own in a FIGHT. No way. They don't know how to FIGHT. They are anemic and look like Kate Moss in Black with a ski mask. Note: Anemic by choice not by poverty. Which is disgusting. They can't brewak down an AK and put it together again in the jungle, in the dark, in the rain. How do you figure they are a class that is fighting back. You want to learn how to fight? Stop following clowns like Ward Churchill around who throws words around but couldn't beat his way out of a paper bag.Want to learn to fight? Follow tried and true fighters. You want to learn how to talk us to death? Keep doing what your doing. The real anarchists I know go out of their way not to wear black or ski masks at rallies.
The argument is being made that allowing people to blend in to a rally with their face covered and dressed in black is the easiest way for the cops and sabateurs to infiltrate and screw up a rally. Maybe the assholes in LA were paid to do what they did? If you are in a crowd of poor immigrants, single mothers, etc... We see you as cowards with your faces covered while poor immigrants march with their faces held high. Hmmm? Why would you cover your faces at a peaceful mass demonstration? Are you a cop making sure no one will reciognize you later after you do some stupid shit to draw the wrath of the cops? ?????? Seems likely.
You cover your face when you do something radfical. You cover your face when you are doing something worthyu of covering your face for. Bank robbers, cops, and guerrilla fighters cover their faces. You are none of the above.
clueless americans
Matt A 11.May.2007 06:28
the last few comments were clearly posted by ignorant PC obsessed liberal americans who have no idea what's going on outside their little shithole country... although they do seem to love to selectively glorify south american movements they know nothing about. how embarrassing for them. the comments betray isolation and ignorance, and I'd bet any money the criticisms could be applied far more accurately to the posters themselves than to the anarcho-syndicalists they denigrate (and who actually do stuff beyond post on the internet).
Clueless? Look in the mirror
Emma Lives! 15.May.2007 02:51
Clueless Americans?
Didn’t the French just elect Sarkozy?
Lets be clear Matt. I believe in Anarcho-syndacalism myself. My problem is that is in the USA and much of the industrialized word today. The majority of people associating themselves with the term don’t know or care what the hell it means. The IWW, probably out of a desire for numbers will associate and allow anyone with an @ or any commie to identify with the movement. Therefore it has long ago lost it’s consistency and identity. It is also true that the majority of those calling themselves IWW are not oppressed workers or people and that is an important fact. Why would oppressed workers want to affiliate with a bunch of white college boys who sit around and sing old labor songs and argue about revolution. In my case in particular I demand that syndicalists live up to their former stature.
Joe Hill, Emma Goldman, and the many who made the wobblies a group to be feared would be ashamed to see what has become of a group whose motto was? “Direct Action get’s the goods”. What does that actually mean today? Throw bottles and run? This is not in the tradition of true Anarchists. It is a bunch of cowardly children at best. Names like Dillinger were on the lips of every poor American because he made fools out of the greedy bankers and their guardians the police. A movement cannot maintain itself on the actions of those who lived a hundred years ago. Show us what ya got or shut the fuck up. Some of us are trying to organize a real movement for change. One neighborhood at a time.
Anyway the poster points out the truth of what previous posters are trying to bring out.
Number one he feels the need to call people ignorant. Number two he makes claims based on zero facts. He say’s Americans glorify South American movements they know nothing about. How does he know the posters aren’t of South American descent. If he himself is not American, then with a name like Matt and his Ivory tower proclamations about “shithole” little country” then we will assume he is British. We then know he knows nothing of racial dynamics in what is the most racially diverse nation in the world and cares little about the importance of the colonized leading the struggle against oppression and the absurdity of those colonialists who join wing nut shit hole little groups like the IWW to dress and play revolutionary.
In his defense he probably enjoys a more well balanced anarchist community and has probably no understanding of the impact of the primitivist bastardization of anarchism in the USA.
Anyway Matt before you tell people they know nothing about Latin American revolutionary movements you should probably show what you do know? Because I for one work side by side Latin American activists and have for over 30 years, and unlike you know who is who and what is what. From the Zapatistas to the Shining Path I have studied and met the best and worst of these movements. I for one don’t glorify anyone. I work with those who get results. Those who liberate whole nations matter. Those who liberate humus from a dumpster are nice but I feel our time could be spent a little more wisely?
To the primitivists? Seriously wake Dorothy. Click your heels and get back to earth.
Let us discuss John Zerzan and the other morons we have to contend with in the movement here who are confusing the hell out a lot of people. This moron makes the argument that all society must be done away with as well as all medicine, all technology etc…
This from a man who has a fucking website?
In the interview with Art Bell John Zerzan is caught by a rank amateur resting on his laurels.
Bell: Mr. Zerzan it is your contention we should revert back to a world where the ill do not take medicine. If you yourself had syphilis, would you take medicine to rid yourself off the illness?
Zerzan: Well yes, I think our world is overpopulated because of medicines that keep people alive when in primitive times they would have passed on.
Bell: I understand you traveled to England recently to give several lectures.
Zerzan: Yes.
Bell: Did you swim or canoe to this lecture?
Zerzan: No I flew.
Bell: You won’t take penicillin but you will fly?
Anyway need I say more? Aside from pointing out that the indigenous people of North America find the term primitive to be an absolutely offensive throwback to the Euro-centric field of Anthropology? Meaning anything that existed in North America before Columbus landed? Now we have a bunch of white kids running around proudly calling themselves primitivists? And thinking they are some sort of revolutionaries? I mean really. I dare you to go to any remote Native American reservation in Minnesota and suggest their elders should not receive medicine and that people should burn their homes and go back to the land? I dare you? The people would burn you to the ground.
The anarchist movement is no longer has any true understanding of race and class analysis. They want to believe we are all just human. Most anarchists attack for instance the demands for reparations to groups who have been wronged by both US and European colonialists. They also think it is somehow revolutionary to think that after the revolution the Indians will want to assimilate with everyone else. Because we are all just one happy human race? You are wrong and you will never get it. This is why white people are for the most part a sidetrack to real progress in the movement. This isn’t about PC. Fuck PC and fuck you. This is about. Those governments who have harmed will be made to make whole. Period. We don’t care what you assholes think. Your positions are more akin to the Republican redneck congress than any revolutionaries. The fact is, the older I get the more think that we will get nowhere trying to work together with such infantile and racist white reactionaries. Those who think they have some voice in whether or not Africans, Latin Americans, Palestinians, Irish, and other oppressed people should demand reparations. I think groups such as these should ignore the Secular Humanist, primitivist, anarchist movement like the plague. They have no sense of strategy and seem to figure out how to get a free meal than anything.
Anyone remember when the Crime Thinc gang had a Hobo Conference? I mean really. Let’s pretend to be destitute homeless people. How offensive can you get.
Anyone remember how they said study groups and reading was for boring, and for losers?
Anyone remember, how they said that having affairs behind the back of your lover was an act of revolution? A “Harbinger” of things to come? How is dishonesty anything but a white male excuse for sleeping around.
Is this what has become of Emma Goldman and others ideas about free-love. Sleep around and be dishonest about it? Why not share free love openly? Cause white boys girl friends will leave if they pull that crap.
Some of us are actually watching you folks and reading the bullshit you write. Some if it might have been helpful at one point but it has all become so immature and infantile. Definitely not cutting edge revolutionary theory, and definitely has to date failed to challenge power. That is what those of us who have actually worn the chains and scars of battle expect. Grow up.
IWW General Assembly
Wob 16.May.2007 04:11
last IWW General Assembly had over 150 people...I dont remember any song singing...just alot of business to take care of. There was a few songs sung after the conference. I dont see how revolutionary unionism is rascist. Get your head out of your ass.
Flags that anarchists fly
anarchist 16.May.2007 04:12
anarchists fly red flags, red//black flags, and black flags.
A whole hundred people?
WOW 16.May.2007 05:38
!
150 people a class is fighting back?
CHICHIO 17.May.2007 00:39
Need I say more?
Anarchists white flags
Customer Z 18.May.2007 02:59
Anarchists in the USA are waving white flags. They don't do shit. No one takes them seriously. They don't do grunt work to organize and they smell bad. They will go to a demo organized by others and then do cauacsian white boy antics the organzations who have done the work have to live down. They never contribute to actual organization. They just want to run around hiding behind adults.
Crimethinc=Urine Aromatherapy
Question 18.May.2007 05:34
You know? You guys all smell like urine and poop all the time and there is market for piss and scat videos in the internet porn business. You could make appropriate wealth from the man by selling videos of you giving each other golden showers. I mean wouldn't that be in your whole anti-work theme? You already smell like poop and piss. You brag about feeding crabs everywhere you go. I put up a couple of your compatriots in my house once when they left I swear to god I had to bomb the place for fleas three times.
I think you guys are great. Flying your poop flag high. I mean what a strategy? The working class see you as heros of the pissolution. Not ashamed but never bathing proudly. SPreading staff infections everywhere you go. I mean are you being paid by some foreign group to spread bacteria to Americans? YOu are gods of anti-authority. I can't wait to live in the world you would create.
I can only imagine the attraction young devotees must have to your musk. Your so lucky to be sooo cool. We all wait on baited breath to see what you will do next.
I'll never forget how in Florida at your Youth lib conference years ago how you told the gay participants they weren't revolutionary because they refused to get naked with all the straight people there. Real serious about revolution.
The Wobblies should let you take over so they can expand their base with your animal magnetism.
Remember Coronado
Florida 18.May.2007 08:20
Or remember that cop informer Coronado who spoke at the conference? THe one that was let out of jail on bomb charges mirculously and then was allowed by the feds to draw flys to honey by travelling around the country to speak to groups so they could document who showed up?
Fools.
Anarchist Conference= Law enforcement convention
will they ever learn? 18.May.2007 08:26
Back in the 80s everyone used to joke about how if you joined one of the commie groups you were turning your membership money over to the agent in charge. If you went to a conference you would meet more feds than commies. Today the same is true for the anarchists. They overplayed their hand now they will learn what it means to be "persons of interests". Welcome to the real world of Hardball.
OMG! YOu Societalist Anarchists!
Kum by yyaya 18.May.2007 21:17
Urine is good for your skin and sterile (for a couple of minutes). You bath takers are destroying the planet. Why can't you learn to bathe primordial mud? Why do you stand in the way of our Aerrie Faerie convergence. One day you will see that food from dumpsters is cleaner than food purchased or grown. Language is oppression. Zerzan is god. Hiding behind those we critisize gives us the advantage of feeling powerful while enjoying the weak frailty of a feather. You pro-society anarchists are ruining the potential of our pissant revolution. Long live tinkerbell! You who go to meetings, make flyers on recycled paper, and torture yourselves with meaningful endeavor, and even listen to CDs made by humans are ruing our chances to revert back to the caveman.
Piss on everybody. Piss is god.
Urinologists got it all wrong
boo boo 18.May.2007 23:52
How we ever gonna get rid o speech if yo goin keep pissing and talkin. How we guana get rid o penocilin if yall keep spreadin dem bacteria. Yall got it all wrong. We must bathe in da lake when possible and avoid da pissin if we guana do away wit da penicillin.
Gabba Gabba Hey, she loves you yea yea yea, stop spreadin yalls Ms. Conceptions.
Do what you want when you want but at least rub a little petule on it after you done.
Welcome to mental home
le frog 19.May.2007 23:22
Quite funny, the small portion of the Americas between Canada and Mexico seems to be the home of the of the last few bolchevists that managed to escape the trash can of history. But propably most of the postings here are from the same single psychopath.
You got that wrong
WIsh you were right 20.May.2007 17:58
Le Frog you are less than informed. Although I wish it were true. You see there are many Bolshevists left. Venezuela? Cuba? China? Where have you been? The left bank? Voting for Sarkozy? Although I personally identify with syndalist Anarchism ideologically, I'll take Fidel over the current anarchist bent here in the Americas. They just don't present any true challenge to the system.
How many primitivists does it take to take a bath?
Joke 20.May.2007 17:59
None of them take baths.
Listen here you situationist frogs!
I P Freely 20.May.2007 18:04
We are proud of urine. We are proud of having crabs, Feeding crabs is a revolutionary act of kindness to those less fortunatte than ourselves.
Brie is oppression. Wine is decadent. It is time the French realize that they and their oppressive culture are making anarchism to intellectual to have any fun with.
Lining up and standing with banners? Holding flags? This all smacks of organization and does not lend itself to chaos. Meetings? Discussions?
Meetings are slavery. Reading is boring. Rise up and play video games!
You all suck
There 20.May.2007 23:09
Yes anyone who disagrees with the Picassoesque anarchist boutique panorama tossed salad of disjointed gar'bage you children have spliced together is obviously uneducated and crazy. You can praise Teddy K.? YOu can stomach John Z? Chicken livered aristocrats on the world scale is what you assholes are. Gutless wonders. Your heros and sheros are who? Insane college proffessors? You see the only disadvantage or pain you children have ever experienced is that you choose. When have you achieved any critical mass? When have you been willing to follow the lead of those most oppressed?
Some insane fuck who holes up in a cabin in Montana and sends anonymous letter bombs to software developers is a hero? A man who is and was incapable of interacting with any other humans? Someone who in his writings condemned Native American, African American, Latino and other oppressed groups efforts to win liberation? IS he much different from some neo nazi militia ass?
Not to mention that during the 90s many socalled anarchists went around defending the militia movement led by the Aryan Brotherhood. You really have shown yourselves make friends of bastards and to condemn freedom fighters.
Fuck you.
You all suck
There 20.May.2007 23:09
Yes anyone who disagrees with the Picassoesque anarchist boutique panorama tossed salad of disjointed gar'bage you children have spliced together is obviously uneducated and crazy. You can praise Teddy K.? YOu can stomach John Z? Chicken livered aristocrats on the world scale is what you assholes are. Gutless wonders. Your heros and sheros are who? Insane college proffessors? You see the only disadvantage or pain you children have ever experienced is that you choose. When have you achieved any critical mass? When have you been willing to follow the lead of those most oppressed?
Some insane fuck who holes up in a cabin in Montana and sends anonymous letter bombs to software developers is a hero? A man who is and was incapable of interacting with any other humans? Someone who in his writings condemned Native American, African American, Latino and other oppressed groups efforts to win liberation? IS he much different from some neo nazi militia ass?
Not to mention that during the 90s many socalled anarchists went around defending the militia movement led by the Aryan Brotherhood. You really have shown yourselves make friends of bastards and to condemn freedom fighters.
Fuck you.
We're mental?
Let me get this right 21.May.2007 07:37
We're mental? Those of us who feel Ted Kazynski is crazy are the ones who are psycho and mental? If you bath and don't agree with John Zerzan your a psycho Bolshevik? Hey if thats how you clowns want to be remembered the you can go fight over the Charles Manson fan club. Somehow if you call yourself an anarchist or leftist and you choose to want to seperate yourself from what would have been a bunch of Rainbow family acid heads in the 80's who stumbled into some PCP and called it anarchy, your the weird one?
Don't get me wrong. Those who tolerate the shit in order to keep rally attendance levels up deserve what they get.
These people (I refuse to call them anarchists because they sully the word) should be forced to organize their own shit. We should have bloks to unblok them when they perform their monkey ticks around those who want nothing to do with them.
le frog must not truly be french
what the hell 22.May.2007 02:01
The French Parliment is packed with Socialists and Communists. What the fuck are you talking about?
The real issue
Jackknife 23.May.2007 11:02
Progressives aren't getting the job,working communities don't identify with anarchists or commies. They see them as people who talk about struggle but don't have lives of struggle. That is because it is true for the most part. The early IWW eas made up of real workers. Real trade unionists. Miners, farmworkers etc...
Today the socalled radical groups are either college students or people in between high school and college. Who are nice people. Sincerely, but they are not the people living the lives of the oppressed. There is something here that needs to be looked at.
Just as Camille Paglia has pointed out that the old guard of the radical left demonized sexuality more than Jerry Falwell. They are against the legalization of sex workers, they are against people being ok with their desires. What does that do? Drive the average working person away from the movement.
On so many levels, Ivy league radicals run around taking up the causes of others and shooting from the hip as they do. The truth is that many just can't see the forest for the trees.
For instance, should we all strive to do away with meat in our diets? Yes? Is that a good starting place for interaction in my community? Hell no! They will just smile at you and move on. Radicals cannot determine the course of social change in poor communities. It has never worked. The Soviet Union is a great example of the end result of an inteligensia driving change. They (for the good of the people) took over every sector of people's lives. Guess what? That doesn't work. By the same token neither will small cells of anarchists ever drive the calls for change in large oppressed communities. They have become in their own way, authoritarian by refusing to interact at a grassroots level. By proclaiming "we don't conform, we don't need government, we don't do meetings, we don't do anything we don't feel like", but then bursting onto the scene whenever they feel like it an just doing whatever their cell of 6 or 8 decided they are creating an authoritarian dynamic. Just like the FBI used to infitrate groups and get them to adopt 100% consensus decision making within an org. Which sounds nice as spice. But then, all they had to do to shut down a group was to show up and disagree with everything. It was the classic COINTELPRO scam.
We need to be where it is appropriate for us to be when attending actions planned by large communities.
If we need to do something of our own, I guess we need to do it on our own. Hopefully our numbers will grow.
The whole anti-globalization thing has obviously become so 90's but the one thing that was cool about the original intent was that it was something anti-capitalists drove and the media covered it that way.
We got the issue into peoples heads and that started a discussion. We have no business behaving the same way during a coalition rally that has been organized by immigrant organizations.
any precisions
dagost 02.Jun.2007 15:34
Anarchists don't fly red flag ! They are totaly against state-communism because communism is the negation of the liberty.
Anarcho-syndicalist fly black and red flags which are the C.N.T. flag , they fight for the "communisme libertaire" (i don't know how write it in english)
And, of course, Anarchists fly the traditional black flag.
Personaly i'm anarchist and anarchosyndicalist but all the CNT members are not anarchist, in France CNT is the latest revolutionnary syndicate ant it is what some of activist join the CNT which is a syndicate.
The CNT has got a history, you can learn much about it on the internet. I read that most of people here don't know what Anarchism is ... Anarchists don't want the mess : they do want the order without the power.
WTF?
Star Wars Fan 09.Jul.2007 13:46
Err...it seems that this has really gotten fucked up here.
Um, so people are claiming that all leftists oppose prostitution, are vegans, and do not organize? And they also claim that all anarchists in the US and Europe are white boys and/or college kids and have not "experienced oppression".
ahh...these posting are interesting at lease.