Griechenland steht in Flammen: Statisten, Kapitalisten, Mord!
lola 31 Aug 2007 18:42 GMT (translated by lola)Nur einige Tage nach der letzten Feuerwelle fiel auch der restliche Wald den Flammen zum Opfer. Und wieder war es Brandstiftung. Das Land steht vor der Wahl und die Regierung rief die Stilllegung des Waldes aus. Somit können Bauvorhaben realisiert werden. Das eröffnet dem privaten Kapital und seinen Brandstiftern natürlich die Möglichkeit, ganze Landstriche bis auf das letzte Blatt zu verbrennen.
Dieser Wahnsinn hat bereits 53 Menschen das Leben gekostet, Dutzende wurden verletzt, viele sind verschwunden, wurden obdachlos; allein im Peloponnes im Westen Griechenlands verbrannten Hunderttausende Morgen Land. Die Präfekturen von Ilia, Arkadia und Messinia wurden durch das Feuer zerstört. In den Präfekturen von Korinthia, Lakonia und Evoia toben die Flammen immer noch.
Die ohnehin schon sehr begrenzten und daher unbezahlbaren Grünflächen von Attica (und der Gebiete um Cholargos, Papagou und Galatsi) konnten diesen "zufälligen" Bränden leider auch nicht entkommen. Satellitenbild von der NASA.
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Der gesamte Staatsapparat hat lange Zeit auf jegliche Art von präventivem Waldschutz verzichtet. Im März behauptete der Premierminister Karamanlis fälschlicherweise, dass seine Regierung dazu bereit war, die Wälder für diesen Sommer im Griff zu haben. Mit ihren bewusst niedrig gehaltenen Ressourcen begrenzen sie ihre Rolle auf die eines Beobachters - sie dokumentieren einfach das Desaster, sonst nix.
Zwischen den Trümmern verbrennen Menschen bei lebendigem Leibe, Menschen wurden sitzen gelassen und sind zwischen den Feuerfronten gefangen. Der Premierminister hat ein Treffen nach dem anderen und versucht das Verbrechen zu vertuschen, indem er grässliche Szenarien entwirft, in denen er die anti-autoritäre(!) Szene des Landes mit dem Desaster in Verbindung bringt.
Uns überrascht überhaupt nichts mehr. Es ist immerhin genau dieser Staatsapparat, der sich schon seit langer Zeit auf Kontroll-, Überwachungs- und Repressionsmethoden spezialisiert hat. Die Möglichkeit, eine politische Integrität zu finden, das hört sich sehr nach einem Science-Fiction Szenario an. ...
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You Greek leftists are hilarious
BetaProspekt 29.Aug.2007 05:56
Seriously, to turn the Greek forest fires as platform for your leftist ideas is hysterical and histrionic. Do you honestly think that if Greece was a Socialist "people's republic" that arsonsists wouldn't have started those fires? Guess what. People start fires. They start them because they are bored or mentally disturbed. What the fuck does Capitalism have to do with anything?
building boom?
fnl 29.Aug.2007 18:41
Apart from not wanting to comment on your choice of wording, I'd like to give you an explanation for this phenomena: it's not linked to right or left wing politics although, it only has one link: money. You obviously are not living in Southern Europe, otherwise you would not be asking these questions. Here the building boom is simply the economic rocket making many constructions companies (and the politicians they bribe - both, left and right) extremely rich. They are building everywhere they can, legal or illegal. The dilemma is the following: if it is stopped, the economies of the Southern European countries will most likely collapse, if it isn't stopped, they'll collapse from corruption... What we need is a smooth transition "back to normal". Additionally, I do not think that these are any freaks "in love with fire" - this is far to large scale to be true.
Is there any evidence?
endlessfields 29.Aug.2007 23:54
Is there any solid evidence that there is some sort of political motivation for starting these fires? Even though it might seem in the interests of the ruling regimes that these forests be gone, just because some politicians want the land cleared and additional factors might make it seem "obvious" that there's some sort of connection it doesn't count as actual evidence. It's purely speculation. There's plenty of idiots and crazy people in the world and the laws of probability suggest that it's likely some kid's stupid prank. (the huge fires in British Columbia a few years ago were started by a firefighter tossing a cigarette butt out onto the side of the road!) If anyone has any solid information (or if I've missed a bunch of information) linking these devastating fires to political motives please post it here. The people of Greece and the world need to be aware of the kind of games our leaders are playing. Our planet cannot afford to lose more tracts of forest, or have so much pollution released into the atmosphere in such a short time. Not to mention all the loss and suffering of the people affected by these fires.
info
reader 01.Sep.2007 03:25
you have similar "urbanization" processes going on in Southern Spain. Although
in more "diplomatic" ways.
Glabal warming
warmer 02.Sep.2007 07:58
...armagedeon (in nasal Carl Sagan like tomes) is happening :~
Goanna be a lot more of this sort of thing I guess.
so sad
greek "leftist" 05.Sep.2007 14:22
you sad little man BetaProspekt, maybe you wake up some day, in the pause of your work-home-money-money environment to realize there are other things.. sorry to say but the reason the situation is shit is in parts because of people like you..
Theories abound
Thomas Simmons, Kapiti Coast 06.Sep.2007 01:33
Te list of theories grows. Some are phrased as the final and obvious answer but let's just admit we can not prove them at this time.
A1. Politics--it is the fault of the Capitalists. This is basically the old money motive.
B1. Disturbed people--the old insanity defense. No scale is too small, I might point out, for the truly insane. It is a matter of logistics not the degree or type of insanity. If they want to destroy things, then they will do what they can manage.
B2. Bored People--you'd have to nuts be to keep going on such a scale so this is just the insanity defense.
A2. Corrupt Politicians and construction companies spurred on by the building boom--the money motive
I see only two motives mentioned here, venality and insanity. Very old motives they are too.
suck my cock
fuck you gimps. 24.Sep.2007 08:44
it makes me so so so so so mad that this is an independent media website! why cant all you cockfaces sell out like everyone else? fuck you!
much love,
georgie dubya busch